Rule Discussion (jailbreak)

[Mr.Stickels]

Thought i might see what you guys thought of a few changes i would personally make. Let me know what you think. Thanks



1.CT's must open cells by 5:30

Ok, out of every single jb map i have played at there isnt any reason it should take 90 seconds to open cells. Orders take 20 seconds tops once you start giving them. One minute is more then enough time. Also, that brings me to another thing. There isnt 1 thing important enough for a t to say on his mic before orders are given. One of the best ideas i think i have is have the ts muted for the first minute. The only thing a t can do with his mic the first minute is disrupt orders or say something dumb.

2. Sprays are judged by the top of the spray

As we all know sprays can be different shapes. Some are vertical some are horizontal. Judging by the middle is the best thing to do. It is 100% fair. Some people are like "it is too hard to judge that". It isnt, it is pretty simple. If you have eyes you can judge the middle.

3.No team stacking

This doesnt need changed. It just needs admin to enforce it. It is a two to one ratio. Two t's to every 1 ct. That simple guys. That is honestly my number one problem with the jb server. TEAMS ARE CONSTANTLY MESSED UP. It never ends.


A rule that i think needs added is the lrs have to be a fair contest. A last request was never intended on being a t having fun killing all the cts. There is nothing wrong with custom lrs such as "american idol" or "animal noises" just remember that the t needs to do it also.


I will end this on one last thing. Everyone needs to be conscious of the fact that there can be alot of people playing sometimes. You need to hurry up with the game. There have been so many times when a t's lr has taken longer then the rest of the entire round. If you are ct, get your orders out fast and get on with the game. If you are a t on your lr, hurry it up, Dont be stupid. There are people waiting. Anyway that is about it. I didnt mean for it too be so long so if you made it this far congratulations. Let me know what you guys think.

[Frito]

with #1 i say leave it cause you have some of the new ct's to the map and they have to find the button to open it, #2 should be the same i think cause if you judge by the middle of a spay then you can get alot of debate's going on what is the middle of one spray, well theres my lil thought about it, very well put though i like it =)

[NinjaPro]

Yah I agree with Frito

[Mr.Stickels]

If someone is new and they dont know a map or how this shit works then they shouldnt be giving orders to start with. 2, the sprays are different sizes sometimes. It simply just isnt fair. That is all i have to say about those.

[Lesbian Ranger]

I say all T's except for admins (for obvious reasons) should be muted at the begining of every round, and all CT's should be muted. There should be NO reason for a T to use a mic. All contest answers MUST be typed out. The only time a T should be able to use their mic is maybe on a LR. otherwise, I say keep them muted. keeps the game better off, more in order, and keeps mic spammers in check for the most part.

[Mr.Stickels]

Ts need to have thier mouth shut 90% of the time but the occasional comment or something doesnt hurt anything. That is why the admins shouldnt be terrified to use their mute powers. have them auto muted until 60 seconds is up then if these kids cant handle the being quite most of the time then you mute them. Idk, there are alot of like little kids that play on the rg servers so maybe this wont work. Other servers where the majority of people are 16+ this isnt even an issue.

[rainman]

I say all T's except for admins (for obvious reasons) should be muted at the begining of every round, and all CT's should be muted. There should be NO reason for a T to use a mic. All contest answers MUST be typed out. The only time a T should be able to use their mic is maybe on a LR. otherwise, I say keep them muted. keeps the game better off, more in order, and keeps mic spammers in check for the most part.

This is a terrible idea, in my opinion. If someone mic spams, just mute/warn/kick/ban. No need to mute all Ts every round because one of them is an idiot. I think you guys forget sometimes this is just a game, the purpose is to have fun. Half the fun for some people is being able to interject funny remarks occasionally. So when one or two Ts mic spam and you mute them all (every round) you're ruining the game for the mature players who have a good sense of humor but also know when to stfu. And that's the kind of players I want to see more of on our servers. I understand muting them all if the server is chaos and 5 of them are talking, but I keep seeing admins mute them all the first time one T starts spamming, and that's just dumb.

Back to the OP, I definitely agree with you on the time to open cells. Should be changed to 6 at least.

[Frito]

2, the sprays are different sizes sometimes. It simply just isnt fair.

ya but if we start useing the middle of a spray then you can have the ct's picking people they wont dead or can argue with what's the middle of a spray or t's spaming cause they got killed but won, best advice i can say is if your loseing cause your spray is to small get a bigger spray just for jailbreak

[Mr.Stickels]

yeah, when the ts are muted all the time it gets boring for them. The point of all of this is still to have fun guys.

[Shikaku]

Thought i might see what you guys thought of a few changes i would personally make. Let me know what you think. Thanks



1.CT's must open cells by 5:30

Ok, out of every single jb map i have played at there isnt any reason it should take 90 seconds to open cells. Orders take 20 seconds tops once you start giving them. One minute is more then enough time. Also, that brings me to another thing. There isnt 1 thing important enough for a t to say on his mic before orders are given. One of the best ideas i think i have is have the ts muted for the first minute. The only thing a t can do with his mic the first minute is disrupt orders or say something dumb.

2. Sprays are judged by the top of the spray

As we all know sprays can be different shapes. Some are vertical some are horizontal. Judging by the middle is the best thing to do. It is 100% fair. Some people are like "it is too hard to judge that". It isnt, it is pretty simple. If you have eyes you can judge the middle.

3.No team stacking

This doesnt need changed. It just needs admin to enforce it. It is a two to one ratio. Two t's to every 1 ct. That simple guys. That is honestly my number one problem with the jb server. TEAMS ARE CONSTANTLY MESSED UP. It never ends.


A rule that i think needs added is the lrs have to be a fair contest. A last request was never intended on being a t having fun killing all the cts. There is nothing wrong with custom lrs such as "american idol" or "animal noises" just remember that the t needs to do it also.


I will end this on one last thing. Everyone needs to be conscious of the fact that there can be alot of people playing sometimes. You need to hurry up with the game. There have been so many times when a t's lr has taken longer then the rest of the entire round. If you are ct, get your orders out fast and get on with the game. If you are a t on your lr, hurry it up, Dont be stupid. There are people waiting. Anyway that is about it. I didnt mean for it too be so long so if you made it this far congratulations. Let me know what you guys think.


ok, *crack*, cmon newbie, let's do this:

#1: Well you know, when they'res 20 T's on, sometimes it takes the CTs a while to figure out which went through teleporter, where to go, what to change from last round. just starting the round and barking commands instantly is what makes jb fail. Also, for the part about microphones, it's an ok idea. Why don't you write a script then? to mute all the T's at the beginning of the round, then unmute then a little into it.Or find one, instead of just demanding it. It would make things a lot easier.

#2: Ok, lt's say i make a spray 50 pixels wide and 4000 pixels tall, is it still fair to judge by middle? Whoops, logic flaw. There's always gonna be peopel going out of their way to be pricks and dirty winners. Part of life. You're on of those people who constantly stay T aren't you? I can tell. Cuz I assuming you bitch about everything.

#3: That's not a good ratio. 3:1 is a good ratio when they'res not retards on CT. Hell I've held off a 7:1 ratio with two very good teammates on tentcity. It's mostly by map, how easy the map maker made it for the T's to rebel, or if there's barely anything to do to get to armory.

#4: Well that's fine and all, but I have a hell of a time playing CT just so I can do those fun little contests. The contests the T's have to do are boring as shit. I get at least 75% of the trivia questions when I'm on, and those are the only thing worth giving a shit about.

You make a good point about the time thing, shit does need to hurry up. But admins constantly remind players of this during the rounds. Whenever it starts taking to long, look down for the nice green lattering to come around and tell the alove players to hurry up.

OK, for everyone else. I'm tired of people just making a forum account, then bitching about how things need to be changed on servers that run extremely well. Well sorry we can't tailor it to your exact needs, but we're kinda looking big picture, what's good for everyone in general. Not what you want specifically.

[Mr.Stickels]

There isnt really anything to reply to. We just have a difference of opinions. I didnt come on to bitch. I came on to help. All i am getting is resistance from most people. There are some who fully agree with me if you read some posts. I dont think anything is going to come from this. Even if i got admin of jb i am starting to see that admin doesnt mean shit because you cant do anything with your powers without fear of being punished. I have talked to 4 people who are good jailbreak players and have been doing this a while who have had their admin taken away for some bullshit. I guess i am going to just drop this. Nothing is really going to change.

[Uniquekills]

Stickels I like your character in showing your opinion, but the 5:30 needs to stay. For the reasons of checking guns in cells etc. If one t mic spams mute him not the whole team, but im seeing a lot of these veteran members of rg getting pissed at us for stating our opinion, show us some respect for participating in the community. We are just trying to make the server better, if were wrong tell us dont bitch us out.

[` toxiN]

Dude the lr rule is about as dumb as FlatEarth. why should a t have to sing a song when its there lr, thats basically cts giving rules still. I say that a t needs a vAnalid reason why they kill the dude, not like o because he was funny looking, but like he was delaying, kind of like ct's do.And as for mic delays, the cts should wait about 7 seconds before killing a t for not complying to orders. I cant tell you how much complaining there is about that.

[Uniquekills]

There is a good point there toxin, mic delays do cause a lot of complaints. Some ct's are just ridiculous on how strict they are, you look the wrong way while walking to big cage, or stop to type you get shot.

[FullStreak]

It's called lowest spray for a reaon. I'll just make my spray a dot for lowest sprey now.

[Chewbacca?]

20 seconds to give orders is way too short. People rebel and then will be shooting at the CT's and it makes things more difficult. For example, on Hiddens jail map there is a back vent from cells to the entrance to soccer, a T can quickly go through that vent and knife the CTs from behind. Then there is the armory CTS need to worry about. I suggest you try being CT for a day.

[Mr.Stickels]

We should set up a time for us to go in and play jb together. I will go ct and show you guys why it isnt that hard to get orders out fast. Perfect example, spyder v3 has cells auto open 30 seconds in. That is one of the most popular jb maps ever and it has that. That is half of the time that i think is reasonable so one minute is way more then enough. "Once cell doors are open, crouch to big cage, no detours, no delays." that is all that needs to be said before cells are open. You guys think that really need 90 seconds to get that sentence out? That is silly.

[Slipperymess]

To stickles, you don't realize that some people are stupid and can't handle that. There should be an IQ requirement for Jailbreak players, but thats not going to happen anytime soon.

[Mr.Stickels]

To stickles, you don't realize that some people are stupid and can't handle that. There should be an IQ requirement for Jailbreak players, but thats not going to happen anytime soon.

True dat true dat

[Hidden]

To stickles, you don't realize that some people are stupid and can't handle that. There should be an IQ requirement for Jailbreak players, but thats not going to happen anytime soon.

If that ever was able to be implemented, you would lose more than 75% of ALL of the jailbreak players EVERYWHERE.

The dumbest people I've ever met on online games have been jailbreak players. I'm not saying all jb players are dumb. I'm just saying that it really doesn't take skill to say simon says jump and shoot them for crouching while they have less that 25% chance to being able to kill you. [Hence the large amount of players who are bad at CS]

[Bk and fries]

Thought i might see what you guys thought of a few changes i would personally make. Let me know what you think. Thanks



1.CT's must open cells by 5:30

Ok, out of every single jb map i have played at there isnt any reason it should take 90 seconds to open cells. Orders take 20 seconds tops once you start giving them. One minute is more then enough time. Also, that brings me to another thing. There isnt 1 thing important enough for a t to say on his mic before orders are given. One of the best ideas i think i have is have the ts muted for the first minute. The only thing a t can do with his mic the first minute is disrupt orders or say something dumb.

2. Sprays are judged by the top of the spray

As we all know sprays can be different shapes. Some are vertical some are horizontal. Judging by the middle is the best thing to do. It is 100% fair. Some people are like "it is too hard to judge that". It isnt, it is pretty simple. If you have eyes you can judge the middle.

3.No team stacking

This doesnt need changed. It just needs admin to enforce it. It is a two to one ratio. Two t's to every 1 ct. That simple guys. That is honestly my number one problem with the jb server. TEAMS ARE CONSTANTLY MESSED UP. It never ends.


A rule that i think needs added is the lrs have to be a fair contest. A last request was never intended on being a t having fun killing all the cts. There is nothing wrong with custom lrs such as "american idol" or "animal noises" just remember that the t needs to do it also.


I will end this on one last thing. Everyone needs to be conscious of the fact that there can be alot of people playing sometimes. You need to hurry up with the game. There have been so many times when a t's lr has taken longer then the rest of the entire round. If you are ct, get your orders out fast and get on with the game. If you are a t on your lr, hurry it up, Dont be stupid. There are people waiting. Anyway that is about it. I didnt mean for it too be so long so if you made it this far congratulations. Let me know what you guys think.



@1. I will have to agree with everyone else. They need to keep it how is since some Cts like to do that backs to cell door stuff. Some maps, like mini, you need to take time since it is a T favored map.

@2 There can be many problems with that. We do not know exactly the middle area of the spray.

@3. We, admins, do try to keep the teams in constant ratio. We can control who connects the server and which team they pick. Even if we we do fix up the teams, there are constant poeple leaving and entering the server.

I will agree with you, the T and Cts should have a FAIR chance in Lrs.

[Cold Fusion]

Just skimmed these posts, not sure if it was already mentioned but:

LR's need a time limit.

Plain and simple. There's really no deep explanation to this, it's just as simple as that. LRs that take 5 minutes, especially after the 0:00 mark, are annoying. I could probably walk to the store, buy a candy bar, walk back, and eat it, before some people finish their LRs.

[Shikaku]

I don't give a time limit when I'm adminning jb, but i do tell them to hurry up if they're like "dance party" and act like a total homosexual in their lr's. if it's not productive to finishing the round, i tell them to hurry up.

[Darkened_Soul]

I don't play The Jailbreak, so I have no reason to worry about anything of the sort... :P

[b00ts]

I don't play The Jailbreak, so I have no reason to worry about anything of the sort... :P

Thank you for contributing.

The only problem with a time limit is you will often have retard CTs who will go hide, run away, etc etc etc. Also with talk of the script for slay the T if he does the classic line up and kill, I'm wondering how that would even work. I know I'd go ape shit if I was killing a bunch of CTs and I suddenly got slayed.

Now if it becomes a rule and the admins can slay for that kind of garbage, perfect.

[Hidden]

To be honest, I love when the T lines up CTs and kills them. Shorter lr = more playing. It's not like the T can do a war vs like 10 CTs. I find most of the singing & shit like that hilarious. Though I don't sing for peeps, I get a giggle from people trying to impress the T with singing while I can get by on a lame joke =P

[Mr. 50/50]

I like the idea of when cells should be open. 6:00 sounds fine to me, and it's the ct's faults if they can't manage. As for the spray thing, that's someone else's problem if they have a spray shape that puts them at a disadvantage, so the original rule is fine. And finally, custom LRs where the t ends up killing everyone don't bother me at all. Not like your KD ratio matters on jailbreak. Plus, if you look at it, jailbreak is the most unfair gametype. One team starts out with a large selection of weapons, while the other team has very few (if any) weapons, and they have to follow orders or be killed. Sure they can rebel or they might have a secret vent/teleport and all that but stil... Rebelling fails about 45-50% of the time on average too, so I think the T deserves some payback on his/her LR if they so wish.

[Darkened_Soul]

I'm gonna start playing jailbreak, so i'm gonna try to keep stuff fair, reasonable, etc. So Yay! :p

[Mr.Stickels]

That script i was talking about for lining up and killing people is for the ct. Freekillers will sometimes tell all the ts to line up for a gun check then awp them all. The script auto bans when that happens. it is only for cts. I dont know how it works but it does.

[sgtdes]

Does it by banning a person who kills more than 1 T who haven't rebelled. Rebellion is detected by a t attacking a ct.

[Cold Fusion]

Let's say I'm a CT and I see Gil walking along. I think, teehee, nobody will see me kill him, and so kill him (for no reason, thus making it a freekill).

So the order for punishment for freekilling is as follows:

1. Slay or Teamswitch
2. Kick
3. Short Ban (5 min to an hour)
4. Perm Ban

At least I think? I'm not sure, I was just wondering if I could get some clarification.